Purpose




Thoughts of a messed up Christian saved by God's grace





Wednesday, April 6, 2016

The Trump posts



I am very concerned about what a Donald Trump presidency would do this country if he could win.....and I am also concerned that his wining the GOP nomination will hand the election to Hillary Clinton, as polls consistently show he loses to her, and he has a 63% unfavorable rating. I have done several posts about Donald Trump and my concerns.

 This isn't just another post about Trump, it is a post where I am going to link to all of the Trump posts.

1) Why I am not getting Trumped, December 31, 2015

2) I'm Tired of Trump, January 8. 2016

3) Can a Christian vote for Donald Trump? February 19, 2016

4) They aren't the Messiah,  February 21, 2016

5) Why I can't vote for Donald Trump, March 4, 2016

6) What is more important to us - comfort and freedom, or God? March 6, 2016

7) Rating sins, March 11, 2016

8) And God have them a king, March 12, 2016

9) The three C's of my voting, March 19, 2016

10) 2016....the year Sean Hannity's talk show died, March 22, 2016

11) Don't blame me, I voted for Cruz, March 30, 2016

12) Lowering presidential standards,  April 1, 2016

Tipping over the edge

 ** I think I blogged about this before, but it bears repeating.  

  This is a departure from my normal blogging topics, and is a topic that is a pet peeve of mine: tipping. Everyone thinks they deserve a tip nowadays. The days of just doing your job well and receiving pay and a thank-you are long gone.

   It used to be about the only people you tipped were waitresses, which makes sense. Most restaurants pay waitresses a very small wage, and they have to make up the rest in tips. Now you're expected to tip everyone from your barber to the person handing you your food at a fast food restaurant.

It is a big turn off for me to walk into a restaurant and see a tip jar on the counter. One of my sisters had an employee push the tip jar towards her as she paid... I would have pushed it back were it me. I am always tempted to write a tip on a piece of paper like "don't eat yellow snow" and put in, but never have.





   Could greed possibly be behind all of this expectation and want of tips? Shouldn't a paycheck, thanks, and the feeling of doing your job well be enough? Why should patrons of establishments have to supplement the workers' greed and sense of entitlement by giving them more money for doing what they should be doing anyway: providing good service and doing their job well?

And who decides who deserves a tip anyway?

You're expected to tip the barista for making your coffee, but not the mechanic for fixing your car.

You're expected to pay the barber, but not the cashier for ringing up and bagging your groceries.

You're expected to tip the fast food or pizza shop employees for making your food, but  not the mailman for bringing you your mail.

You're expected to tip the pizza delivery boy, but not the UPS or FedEx driver for delivering your package.



  Seriously, who decides these things? And what makes some of these people more deserving of a tip than others? Does anyone ever think about it or question it, or are we just guilted into doing it because it is expected and everyone else is doing it?

  I work in the Emergency Department of a hospital for half of my day. The other half is spent in the main lobby of the hospital. I help people into wheel chairs, help them sign in on the kiosks, look up patient rooms for them, give them directions to other part of the hospital, and various other duties. No one tips me, nor do I expect it. Well, I did have one lady insist on tipping me as I took her by wheelchair on the elevator.... but I like my job, I get paid for it, and I get a lot of thanks and recognition. But if all of these non-waitress workers deserve a tip for what they do, don't I? I do more for people than make their coffee or hand them their food across the counter. What makes them more deserving of a tip than me? And no.... I don't believe I deserve or need tips, I am just making a point.

  What makes the barber more deserving of a tip than the Walmart employee who changes your oil? What makes the pizza delivery guy more deserving of a tip than your mailman or UPS driver? What makes the pizza shop employees more deserving of a tip than the ticket sales person at the movie theater? What makes the hotel maid more deserving of a tip than the employee at the bank drive through?

  I don't like to tip. No, I am not selfish or greedy. I just believe that people shouldn't expect a tip for doing their job. And unless you can answer my questions above why some people deserve a tip while others in different jobs do not, don't judge me.



  I'm not even crazy about tipping waitresses. Since I have two sisters who have been waitresses, I know how important tips are to a waitress. They usually get half of or even less than half of minimum wage, so they have to make it up in tips. I also know a lot of waitresses are dishonest and don't report all of their tips, thus avoiding paying as many taxes on their tips. So maybe we need to cut tipping out even for waitresses and pay them what the other employees make. Just a thought. And I am actually a good tipper at restaurants if the waitress or waiter does their job well, and especially if they keep up with refills.

  There are people who think you should tip well no matter how the service is. I disagree. Case in point: I was at the Mexican restaurant I frequent a lot, and had a male waiter. After he brought my drink and meal, he sat over at the bar watching TV, I finished my drink and needed a refill, but he was over watching TV. I was almost done with my meal by the time he peeled himself away from the TV to check on me. I left him nothing. It was obvious that he wasn't too busy, but what he was watching was more important than doing his job, and a tip is basically a reward for a job or service well done.....so why should I reward him for ignoring me?

  Another time I was tempted to not leave a tip, but I did leave one: I was eating at am all you can eat buffet where you paid before you ate, and there was a receipt on your table saying what drinks you got. Our waitress came by, looked at the slip, took out her pen and circled something on the slip with a pen. I picked it up to see what she circled. She had circled "tips are appreciated".......uh, so are prompt refills!

  I will continue to tip waitresses for good service, but I refuse to tip people who are getting paid a full wage to do their job. I will not encourage greed or entitlement in people by tipping them for doing their job. I will thank them and tell them to have a nice day, and that is enough.



Monday, April 4, 2016

You Saved Me

One of my all time favorite songs:



You Saved Me by the Martins 


Verse 1:

As I look into the mirror

I know I wouldn't be here if not for You
When I caused You so much pain
And You could've turned away, Your faith held true


When my life had turned to ashes

And my dreams went up in smoke
You were the constant line
My only source of hope


Chorus:

You saved me at each and every turn
As I stood frozen on the bridges I would burn
You saved me when I was my own worst enemy
Your love is the key that set me free, Lord, You saved me


Verse 2:

When I look up at the cross
And consider all it cost, I stand amazed
Then I'm driven to my knees
'Cause my mind cannot conceive Your endless grace


You know the very number

Every hair upon my head
You loved me and You chose me
Before I took my first breath


Chorus:

You saved me at each and every turn
As I stood frozen on the bridges I would burn
You saved me when I was my own worst enemy
Your love is the key that set me free, Lord, You saved me


You saved me at each and every turn

As I stood frozen on the bridges I would burn
You saved me when I was my own worst enemy
Your love is the key that set me free, You saved me



How many church services should we attend?

  This is one of those blog posts that make me feel like I should put on my shirt that says "heretic"......if I really had one. Anyone who knows me well knows that I am politically incorrect and proud of it. I need to come up with a term to describe my nonconformity to church....well, maybe just "nonconformist" will work.

  Maybe it is just the religious and church circles I grew up in and have been in most of my life, but there is this idea that you should never question anything. Follow the church rules, go to every service the church has, and if you ever question anything or don't go to every service, then you are a rebel and don't truly love Jesus.

   I don't believe the Bible indicates how many services we should attend in a week, or how many services a church should have in a week. I have always attended churches that followed a similar schedule of services such as my church currently has:


Sunday Services Schedule 


Men's Prayer Meeting..................7:00 a.m.

Sunday School............................9:30 a.m.

Morning Worship........................10:30 a.m.

Adult Prayer Meeting....................5:00 p.m.

Youth Service..............................5:00 p.m.

Childrens Service.........................5:00 p.m.

Evening Worship..........................6:00 p.m.

Children's Chapel..........................6:00 p.m.


Wednesday

Prayer Service.............................7:00 p.m.


Monday - Friday

Men's Prayer Meeting...................6:30 a.m.

Spring and Fall revival services, usually Tuesday evening through Sunday evening. There is also a jail service some Sunday afternoons and a rest home service one Sunday a month.

But how much is necessary? What does God expect out of us as Christians and as a church? If you went to every service we had, are you truly resting? (Getting my t-shirt.....)



  After my parents became Christians, we were at church every time the doors were opened. I've heard preachers say if you love God, you'll be there for every service, and say if you don't go to every service; you are most likely having spiritual problems. I have even heard preachers say "If you go to church Sunday morning, you love the church. If you go Sunday morning and Sunday evening, you love the pastor. And if you go both Sunday services and Wednesday evening, you love God." That seems a bit harsh and a tad bit judgmental.

   It is rare to find churches nowadays that have a Sunday evening service. I don't know the reasons for sure, but I have a few ideas. The idea of no Sunday evening service seems foreign to me.... but I am going to try to tackle both sides of it.

For Sunday evening services:

  Keeping the Sabbath was a big deal in the Old Testament. That was one of the things God got angry with the Israelites about. There were a lot of rules down to how far you could walk. Then Jesus came along and healed on the Sabbath, and had no problem with His disciples picking some corn to eat as they walked through a corn field. When challenged, Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man; not man for the Sabbath. That statement has been used to excuse anything people want to do on the Sabbath from going to amusement parks to chopping wood.

  I was raised that the Sabbath should be a different day than the rest of the week. It was a day we did no unnecessary work or activities. No going to the amusement part, no laundry, no sports or loud activities, no going to the store or out to eat. We went to church, ate lunch, napped or took a walk or read, and went back to church. And I like it that way.

  So coming from my background, one argument I would make for Sunday evening church: If you are going to honor the Sabbath, why not go to church Sunday evening? What are you going to do to keep the Sabbath if you stay home: watch movies or TV with violence and cursing? Watch a sports team as they dishonor the Sabbath? Mow the yard, have a party? What does a Christian do to keep God's holy day if they aren't in church Sunday evening?

We need to be in church, and Sunday evenings is another great time to be there.





Against Sunday evening church:

  The Sabbath is a day of rest and to be in God's house, but can you have too much church on a Sunday that nixes the resting part?

  Look again at the schedule of services my church has. How much resting can a person get and go to every service we have, especially the Sundays that include a jail or rest home service?

  I have stayed home my share of Sunday evenings. Sometimes I wasn't feeling well, and sometimes I was just exhausted. The rule keepers would say I still should go, that being tired is no reason to stay home from Sunday evening church..... or is it? I can say I never felt guilty when I stayed home. I did worry what people thought of me, but I am getting further and further away from letting what people think or may not think of me be what rules my life.

 
 I personally do feel a church should have Sunday evening worship services. However, the way my church does it is a bit much. If I had the authority to do it, I would move the 5:00 children's and youth services to Wednesday evening and have a true Bible study for the adults instead of a mini Sunday service.

  The Bible doesn't say how often one should be in church. I don't know that God would care how many services a church has on a Sunday, but I believe He still cares about how we honor His day and that we truly observe it as a day of rest.

 Can church attendance be a sign of your spiritual condition? Maybe.....but I have become a firm believer that one does not have to be in church every time the doors are open. (See t-shirt) I don't go to many revival services for a few reasons, and don't go Wednesday nights for a few reasons also.....but I feel I am doing better spiritually than I ever have. Church is important, but you can be there every service and even be there to clean and help with VBS and have not one ounce of God in you. It is far more important what we do with Jesus outside of the church. That is what truly matters.

Sunday, April 3, 2016

God uses broken vessels

  I can't be the only person who has struggled with the idea of God using me. The devil uses all kinds of things to fight us and discourage us, and I am sure he tells other Christians the same thing he tells me: I have messed up too much, I have failed too much.....God can never use me now.

  It is something I have been praying about, for God to use me; but I always have that niggling thought floating around in the back of my mind that it may be too late, I am too old, etc.

  There is a book I am reading right now about grace. The author's intent is to show that God's grace is not just a New Testament thing, but is all through the Old Testament also. As I read the first few chapters, something really hit home with me that isn't necessarily the point of the book. Yes, God's grace is all through the Old Testament, but something else stood out to me in a new way: the Old Testament is full of messed up people who God used in some great ways, and some of these messed up people messed up a lot and pretty badly.

There's Judah, who slept with a prostitute who turned out to be his daughter-in-law. Instead of using the lineage of Joseph, the more "perfect" son of Jacob to bring His Son from, God chose to do it through one of the illegitimate sons that came from that illicit union.

Then there is Rahab, the prostitute who is also in the lineage of Jesus.

Moses, who killed a man, doubted God, did what God told him not to, yet God used him in a mighty way.

David, who pretty much forced a married woman to have sex with him, and then had her husband killed to cover it up.

Abraham lied a couple of times, and took matters into his own hand in producing an heir because he didn't trust God.

  If you look closely at the people God used in the Old Testament, not too many of them measured up too well. They failed God, they doubted God, they messed up after God had forgiven them; and God still used them.

   And even in the New Testament there are people who messed up and God used them to build His Kingdom and church.



   If you look at the long list of people God used in the Bible who were far from perfect, one might come to the conclusion that God delights to use and prefers to use messed up people. Seem like a stretch?

  A lot of these people wouldn't be welcome in our churches today. Paul, the man who killed Christians, Rahab the prostitute, Judah, Ruth a foreign idolater, Moses the octogenarian who doubted ..... and the list goes on. If you read what the New Testament church was like, it was filled with people who had issues: homosexuality, idolatry, incest.....and God chose to build His church on people like that; not "perfect" people who had it all together,

  And if God seemingly preferred to use messed up people back in Bible times, then could the same thing possibly be so today? Could it possibly be that God could better use me, this broken vessel, this very messed up Christian; more because I am so far from perfect; than if I was the "perfect" Christian?

   I have long felt God wanted to use me in some way because of the struggles I have and deal with. That is one of a few reasons why I came out of the shadows. How can I ever use my struggles to help anyone if I stay in the shadows and no one knows what I deal with? Others have risked judgement and being ostracized and came forward to admit these same-sex attractions. God has used them, and I have been helped and encouraged by many of them..... so how can I ask God to use me and not be willing to do what they have done?



  God can do anything, including taking broken messed up people, and using them in ways they could never have been used if they had not been broken and messed up.

  I mean in no way to infer that God cannot and does not use people who are not messed up and broken vessels..... He can and does use anyone. I however, am encouraged by the thought that He may prefer to use broken vessels, of which I am definitely one.


 

Friday, April 1, 2016

The lepers among us

  Note: I originally did this blog post in March of 2014. Since then, I have stopped hiding and stopped caring what people think of me, and admitted my struggle. In the original post, I was still hiding in the shadows.

   In Jesus' time on earth, leprosy was a big deal. Once people got it, they had to go off from everyone and live by themselves, or with other lepers. They were shunned and feared. No one wanted to be around them, as it was a horrible disease and no one else wanted to get it. Any time they went anywhere where that there might be healthy people, they had to yell "unclean, unclean."

  Back around 2003-2004, I read a book that I found fascinating: Second Touch by Brock and Bodie Thoene. Set during Jesus' ministry, the story revolved around lepers. The Thoenes do some heavy research for their books, and the way they presented this story about lepers, and what they went through, helped me learn a lot more about the disease.

 There are still leper colonies today, but it isn't something most people need to worry about.

 Yet, we still have our own lepers. Not so much in American society, where just about any sin is not just tolerated, but put on display in parades and shouted from the housetops.

   But enter almost any local church, and you'll find the lepers. Or maybe you won't find them. I am sure in Jesus' day, there were people who had leprosy and tried to hide it. They knew what would happen once everyone found out they had it. They would be shunned, kicked out of society and out of the city. So human nature being what it is, there had to be lepers who tried to hide it. And can you blame them? They would go from having friends and a loving family, to having nothing. Isolation, loneliness, and pain, just waiting for death.

  Our modern day lepers in the church don't have a physical disease that is eating away at their flesh. They have something that is eating away at their soul, their self confidence, their lives.

  Who are they? They are our brothers and sisters, parents, friends, children. They are people addicted to porn, people struggling with same-sex attractions, people addicted to sex or other things they are afraid to confide in anyone about. Just like the lepers of old, many try to hide it. And why not? They would face judgement, shunning, some would be kicked out of their homes, and some would even be kicked out of their churches.



  I have told this story before on my blog, but it fits here, so I will share it again. Southern Gospel singer Kirk Talley told it on a live CD he did a few years back.

  There was a young man who played guitar in the band at his church. He struggled with being attracted to other males, so he did what anyone in his shoes should be able to do: he went to his pastor and talked to him. His pastor seemed understanding, and said he'd pray for him. Then came the next church service. While this young man was on stage with the rest of the band, the pastor told the whole congregation what this young man had told him. He then turned to the young man, and told him to get out of the church, that his kind was not welcome there. So a horrified and heart broken young man took his guitar and walked out of the very place that should have been a safe place for him, but instead had done to him what the lepers of old had done to them: he was kicked out and shunned.

   Every time I think of that story, it breaks my heart, and it also makes me angry. I'd like to get a hold of that pastor and shed some righteous anger on him. At least I hope it is righteous.

  There was a day I walked into my pastor's study and told him something I had never verbalized to another person.....that I, Mark Buzard struggled with same-sex attractions. He and his wife never treated me differently, or if they did, they seemed to show more love and caring towards me. I am sure it wasn't an easy thing to have a member of his congregation tell him, but he did all he could to help me in his remaining years at my church. I will always be grateful to my pastor at that time, David Blowers, for being Jesus to me.

   And if I wasn't fortunate and blessed enough to have one pastor who loved me through my struggles, I got a second one. I'll never forget the day, though it has been 12 or 13 years now. My former pastor left unexpectedly to fill a position of leadership in our denomination. My current pastor, Stan, had just come as our assistant pastor. We got a new pastor that was older and I didn't know, and I was feeling a bit lost.



    One day I was really at a low point, so I called Stan, my assistant pastor. I'd known him for about 9 years, having gone to Bible college with him. He came, and I sat looking at him, wondering how on earth I was going to get up the nerve to tell another pastor this thing I struggle with. I started to tell him, stumbling a bit over my words, and had only gotten out that I wasn't sure how to tell him, when he blew me away. He said before Pastor Blowers had left, he had pulled Stan aside and told him what I was dealing with, and that I would need him.

  Not to minimize what my former pastor had done, but Stan became even more involved in helping me. Fifteen years later, with him being my full time pastor for several years now, I know I can call him any time. I know he is praying for me. He occasionally sends me a text asking how I am doing.

  And God has blessed me with others. I am so thankful for the friends who know the worst about me, and don't run, don't shun me, don't kick me out of their comfort zone.

  Are there those who would? Yes, even in my own church. I have heard the comments, the snide remarks, the mockery. They didn't know someone was in their hearing who was hurt by their words. They had no clue a modern day leper was just a few feet away. (Note: since "coming out" on my blog about what it is I struggle with, I have yet to hear or experience any negative comments, though I am sure there would be a few who would if they knew)

   Too many churches have a mental list of sins they are comfortable with. If they know of someone who struggles with things like pornography or homosexuality, they wouldn't want them in their church. But something they may be unaware of, or refuse to consider: they are already there. The silent lepers, hiding their disease, afraid to admit their struggle, for they fear what would happen.

  Christians need to quit putting their head in the sand and thinking the lepers are all "out there". They aren't. They are wherever you are. They are in the pew in front of you, across from you. They may be the person sitting beside you in church......they may be someone in your own house.

  The chances of your church having at least one person who is struggling with same-sex attractions and/or identifying themselves as gay, are greater than your church not having any. The chances of you knowing a person struggling with same-sex attractions is greater than you not knowing. Your church, your family -  they are everywhere. In my own church, I know of three, including myself, though I do not know the identity of one of them.... or if that person still goes to my church.

   And even greater than the chances of a person dealing with SSA, are the chances of someone in your church struggling with pornography. There are likely several people in your church, in your family. It could be your husband, brother, or son..... not that women are not susceptible to it, but it is more of a male problem than female.

 Check out the statistics from Covenant Eyes on teens and pornography, if you can make it big enough. If not, click here: http://www.covenanteyes.com/2010/08/19/teens-and-porn-10-stats-your-need-to-know/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=4378167



 I don't know about you, but that is scary, and sad. And how many of those kids will go on to fighting the addiction all of their lives, because they are too afraid to tell someone.... so they become another of the lepers, hiding in the shadows.

   Sexual sin can have worse and more long lasting effects than other sins. I get that, but it is time the church stopped treating those involved in it like they are lepers. We tend to put sins on a level of not so bad to worse, and homosexuality and pornography are close the worst sins on our chart.

  We can't go the way of some liberal churches and wink at these sins, and tell those who are involved in them that they are fine and don't need to change, and I am not saying same-sex attraction is a sin, but to many Christians it is. The sin is when the person gives in to lust and or the act of sex.

  I firmly believe with all of my heart, that if the church had a more compassionate view and tone towards those struggling with same-sex attractions, porn, and anything else that is in the same category, those in our churches who are struggling with those issues might come out of the shadows, admit they have a problem, and ask for help.



   But instead, we take a harsh stand not just against the sin, but against the person, and only eternity will show how many people we have driven more into their struggle and sin and/or away from God and the church by making it so hard for them to find help in the very place where they should be able to get it: their church.

  My church is not perfect. (hey, if it was, I wouldn't be allowed in!) The people are not perfect. I am sure that if some people find out about my same-sex attractions, they will fear me, judge me, and shun me. That is very likely. And that is sad.

   But I am thankful for those who know, and love me and call me their friend and brother. My pastor and his wife, Stanley and Sandra Grabill. My former pastor and his wife, David and Debbie Blowers.. and several others. If the church was filled with people like you, those broken people, the lepers in our church, would not feel they had to hide, but would feel safe in coming forward for help.

  That is what Christianity, and being like Jesus is all about.

Lowering presidential standards

  I think a lot about a Donald Trump presidency. It worries me as much as a Hillary Clinton presidency. The more I see of him and the more I hear what he says, the more I wonder how anyone can support him that is conservative, Christian, and has common sense.

I've watched his supporters as they defend vulgarity, bullying..... and they even go so far as to blame the victim of one of Trump's campaign managers. The way I see it, by supporting Donald Trump and letting him be a viable; we have lowered our standards for the presidency.

1) Character doesn't matter. The man lies and flip flops, attacks anyone who dares disagree with him, argues and fights back like a young child; but his supporters don't care.

2) Morals don't matter. Trump cheated on two different women, owns strip clubs where women are degraded and used, has said some pretty bad things about women he disagrees with.... and his supporters overlook it; yet condemned the same behavior in Bill Clinton.

3) Being presidential doesn't matter. The man has the worst behavior of any candidate, maybe even worse than Obama. I have seen people say it doesn't matter if he is presidential. Again, the vulgarity, the childish need to fight back and finish what someone else started........he surpasses Obama on not acting presidential. And it does matter.

4) Experience doesn't matter. People are so intent on electing an "outsider" that they don't care about a lack of experience. Listening to Donald Trump talk, he has no clue about how to run a country. He has no clue about the Constitution, rule of law, separation of powers, etc. The things he has said he will do as president are outrageous and out of the powers of a president.



5) Christianity and biblical principles don't matter. I am of the firm belief we need a president who at least attempts to live by the Bible and have godly principles and values. Donald Trump has said he has never done anything that he needs to ask forgiveness of God for, and by that statement says he is not a Christian, and by that statement makes a mockery out of God and forgiveness. That statement alone should have caused Christians to bail from the "Trump train", but as with anything else he says or does; it did not faze them.

6) Life doesn't matter. Trump claims to have switched to being pro-life when he had his miraculous conversion to the Republican party, yet he has defended the largest abortion provider in the country multiple times, saying they do a lot of good. Any conservative or Christian worth their salt should find that highly offensive, but since the Donald said it, it is OK.

7) Traditional marriage and our religious freedoms don't matter. Donald Trump has promised to further the cause of gay rights.....and anyone paying attention knows that gay rights trump (no pun intended) Christian's rights and freedoms every time. A Trump presidency may likely mean a bigger loss of our freedoms and rights as Christians..... but that doesn't matter in this election.



8) A candidate's past doesn't matter. His moral failures aside, Trump has supported liberals and their policies for years. He has helped get into office Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and others who fight everything we believe. He has been in bed with the Clintons for years, had said the very woman he many be running against would make a great president, has defended Bill Clinton's sexual escapades, and said the Clintons are great people.

  He has several failed businesses and 4 bankruptcies, yet none of this matters.




9) Misogyny doesn't matter. This deserves its own point. The man has said some pretty nasty things about women,and treated some women very badly... but it doesn't matter.

10) Decency doesn't matter. In addition to his vulgarity, the man discussed the size of his genitals in a public debate. I have friends who were afraid to let their kids watch the debates for fear of what Trump may say. I told that on Facebook, and Trump supporters defended him. One person said kids need to get used to that kind of talk and shouldn't be sheltered.. but come on, a presidential candidate talking that way? Another Trump supporter friend defended the genital talk by saying Marco Rubio started it..... uh, does that mean Trump needed to fight back like a 3 year old?


  Donald Trump and his supporters have lowered the bar very low. Everything Christians and conservatives have stood for and believe has been tossed out the window to support the worst candidate to ever run on the GOP ticket. How can they dare criticize any Democrat now or in the future when the bar has been lowered so far, when the standards for a president have been tossed out the window?

  How can these Trump supporters ever fight a pro-abortion candidate without being hypocritical? A pro-gay candidate? And the list goes on. They have opened the door wide to whatever a candidate is like, as long as he yells a lot and says something they like.



  Many of these same people had and have issues with Bill Clinton's sexcapades, yet Trump has cheated on his wives and bragged about it, and owns at least one strip club.

 These same people take issue with Hillary Clinton for lying, yet Trump lies and they deny it.

 These same people hate Obamacare, yet Trump wants government healthcare and it is OK.

  I fear Donald Trump has destroyed the Republican party and dealt a huge blow to conservatism. His supporters have helped of course by supporting and defending the man no matter what he has done, says, or how he acts. And I wonder if that was not the intent? I am still highly suspicious that such an outspoken supporter and friend of the Clintons would suddenly switch parties to run against his friend Hillary......  the same Hillary he said would make a great president.

 Regardless of whether that is the case or not, we can no longer fault liberals and the Democratic party as they vote for whatever candidate is on the ticket, no matter what that candidate is like. We are doing the same thing, and the Republican Party and conservatives are no longer any better than the Democratic Party and liberals. We have lowered the presidential standards to the same level as they have.